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	<title>Comments on: (Ingredient Watch.) And you thought placenta was weird.</title>
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	<description>An investigation of the price we pay for pretty.</description>
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		<title>By: Is it a dress code or a body code? &#171; Beauty Schooled</title>
		<link>http://beautyschooledproject.com/2009/12/09/placenta-foreskin-sperm-facial/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it a dress code or a body code? &#171; Beauty Schooled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I happen to be hilarious and that a lot of what we talk about here is on the silly side (I know, sperm facials, I know). But part of why they&#8217;re laughing is because &#8220;those people who buy into that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I happen to be hilarious and that a lot of what we talk about here is on the silly side (I know, sperm facials, I know). But part of why they&#8217;re laughing is because &#8220;those people who buy into that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
		<link>http://beautyschooledproject.com/2009/12/09/placenta-foreskin-sperm-facial/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the average price for a facial.  In 4 star hotels they routinely run $200+ so $300 for a &quot;gold&quot; facial would probably seem reasonable to many of their customers. Even if anyone really believed there was anything more than yellow coloring in the stuff.  Does there have to be a de minimus perventage of actual gold?  How do they prove it is 24 carat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the average price for a facial.  In 4 star hotels they routinely run $200+ so $300 for a &#8220;gold&#8221; facial would probably seem reasonable to many of their customers. Even if anyone really believed there was anything more than yellow coloring in the stuff.  Does there have to be a de minimus perventage of actual gold?  How do they prove it is 24 carat?</p>
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		<title>By: Chandler</title>
		<link>http://beautyschooledproject.com/2009/12/09/placenta-foreskin-sperm-facial/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, for the record I did not say using medical waste for beauty reasons wasn&#039;t &quot;weird&quot; (I believe my exact words were, &quot;I wouldn&#039;t want a face full of baby blood,&quot; and you don&#039;t see me using amputated limbs for home decor either).  I just said that I don&#039;t see what&#039;s wrong with it if there&#039;s transparency at every step of the process: telling donors what their placentas would be used for, and giving accurate, peer-reviewed scientific information to consumers about the effects of those placentas when used in beauty products.  

I&#039;m not going to judge anybody else for what they decide to put on their face or in their body, even if it grosses me out or seems like an unnecessary risk.  What&#039;s creepy to me about all of this is the &quot;don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; attitude Bio-geek refers to, which seems bizarrely common across this industry.  I guess that because the beauty industry is selling dreams -- of eternal youth, of transformation, of quick fixes -- they&#039;re able to get away with being hazy on the specifics in a way that, say, the auto industry can&#039;t.  (Putting placentas in a product with no hard evidence of what they do is a bit like selling a car with airbags that have never been crash-tested.)  But women -- and men -- should be smart and empowered enough to realize that&#039;s not acceptable and demand greater accountability from the companies whose products they buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, for the record I did not say using medical waste for beauty reasons wasn&#8217;t &#8220;weird&#8221; (I believe my exact words were, &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t want a face full of baby blood,&#8221; and you don&#8217;t see me using amputated limbs for home decor either).  I just said that I don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s wrong with it if there&#8217;s transparency at every step of the process: telling donors what their placentas would be used for, and giving accurate, peer-reviewed scientific information to consumers about the effects of those placentas when used in beauty products.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to judge anybody else for what they decide to put on their face or in their body, even if it grosses me out or seems like an unnecessary risk.  What&#8217;s creepy to me about all of this is the &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; attitude Bio-geek refers to, which seems bizarrely common across this industry.  I guess that because the beauty industry is selling dreams &#8212; of eternal youth, of transformation, of quick fixes &#8212; they&#8217;re able to get away with being hazy on the specifics in a way that, say, the auto industry can&#8217;t.  (Putting placentas in a product with no hard evidence of what they do is a bit like selling a car with airbags that have never been crash-tested.)  But women &#8212; and men &#8212; should be smart and empowered enough to realize that&#8217;s not acceptable and demand greater accountability from the companies whose products they buy.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://beautyschooledproject.com/2009/12/09/placenta-foreskin-sperm-facial/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to these product topics, I&#039;m interested in your take on full page (A7)&quot;FEED&quot; ad in the NYT today..... Spend $50 on 3 tubes of lip gloss in a FEED &quot;pouch,&quot; and provide food and job training to 10 &quot;disadvantaged women&quot; through the U.N. World Food Program.....

Can our ace beauty investigator tell us anything about Bobbi Brown and Lauren Bush and what they are up to?  How many $$ of $50 purchase goes to World Food Program?..... What&#039;s with the cute little copies of &quot;feed bags&quot; for farm animals?  --Is this mix of faux-farm and  &quot;feeding women&quot; appeals creepy, or what? And what&#039;s the story with whether these are environmentally/humanly safe cosmetics? Who makes them, where, under what conditions? 

--Admittedly I&#039;m in a knee-jerk anti-marketing mode here. Interested in whatever you know about this brands and your thoughts....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to these product topics, I&#8217;m interested in your take on full page (A7)&#8221;FEED&#8221; ad in the NYT today&#8230;.. Spend $50 on 3 tubes of lip gloss in a FEED &#8220;pouch,&#8221; and provide food and job training to 10 &#8220;disadvantaged women&#8221; through the U.N. World Food Program&#8230;..</p>
<p>Can our ace beauty investigator tell us anything about Bobbi Brown and Lauren Bush and what they are up to?  How many $$ of $50 purchase goes to World Food Program?&#8230;.. What&#8217;s with the cute little copies of &#8220;feed bags&#8221; for farm animals?  &#8211;Is this mix of faux-farm and  &#8220;feeding women&#8221; appeals creepy, or what? And what&#8217;s the story with whether these are environmentally/humanly safe cosmetics? Who makes them, where, under what conditions? </p>
<p>&#8211;Admittedly I&#8217;m in a knee-jerk anti-marketing mode here. Interested in whatever you know about this brands and your thoughts&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bio-geek</title>
		<link>http://beautyschooledproject.com/2009/12/09/placenta-foreskin-sperm-facial/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Bio-geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my mind, some of the people who are willing to dedicate that kind of money to high-end beauty products are going to have a don&#039;t-ask-don&#039;t-tell policy with their creams.  It works well, don&#039;t bother me with your petty morality and silly things like cancer.

On the topic of the Glamour Aborted Fetus cream, let&#039;s be realistic about it.  A woman has an abortion (&quot;reportedly out of medical necessity&quot;) and is offered the opportunity to help burn victims (and other causes) by using the tissue of the life that was never able to come to be.  She thinks about it and, like organ donating, realizes that the end of one life can improve others.  So, she does and that tissue sample is grown in a lab.  What was once a few cells from the fetus is now a bank of millions of cells, their origin is now a distant memory.

Then we consider what works well with the human body.  Well, the molecules produced by the cells, yes?  So, those can be produced by stem cells and voila, you have a cream that has a certain synergy with your skin.  It&#039;s also important to remember that just because something is a hormone, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s testosterone or estrogen related.  Even cholesterol is a hormone.

Is it right that, in addition to being used to help burn victims, etc, these fetal cells are being used to make ladies pretty?  I don&#039;t know, that would take a longer debate for me.  But is it bad for you simply because it was produced by human cells?  Certainly not, being a series of connected organs, we sort of use human cell created compounds all the time.

Of course, this doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s good for you either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my mind, some of the people who are willing to dedicate that kind of money to high-end beauty products are going to have a don&#8217;t-ask-don&#8217;t-tell policy with their creams.  It works well, don&#8217;t bother me with your petty morality and silly things like cancer.</p>
<p>On the topic of the Glamour Aborted Fetus cream, let&#8217;s be realistic about it.  A woman has an abortion (&#8220;reportedly out of medical necessity&#8221;) and is offered the opportunity to help burn victims (and other causes) by using the tissue of the life that was never able to come to be.  She thinks about it and, like organ donating, realizes that the end of one life can improve others.  So, she does and that tissue sample is grown in a lab.  What was once a few cells from the fetus is now a bank of millions of cells, their origin is now a distant memory.</p>
<p>Then we consider what works well with the human body.  Well, the molecules produced by the cells, yes?  So, those can be produced by stem cells and voila, you have a cream that has a certain synergy with your skin.  It&#8217;s also important to remember that just because something is a hormone, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s testosterone or estrogen related.  Even cholesterol is a hormone.</p>
<p>Is it right that, in addition to being used to help burn victims, etc, these fetal cells are being used to make ladies pretty?  I don&#8217;t know, that would take a longer debate for me.  But is it bad for you simply because it was produced by human cells?  Certainly not, being a series of connected organs, we sort of use human cell created compounds all the time.</p>
<p>Of course, this doesn&#8217;t mean that it&#8217;s good for you either&#8230;</p>
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